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[PVE-User] Can I get some assistance with installing proxmox on Dell Poweredge R815 servers
Pina, Bruce
2018-05-25 19:34:17 UTC
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We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.

Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
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704-632-7280
Alex Chekholko
2018-05-25 19:36:02 UTC
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I don't know the answer off the top of my head but it would help you to
expand your search to just any Debian installation on that hardware, as
"proxmox" is just a specific variant of Debian. You can also try a Debian
installation yourself on those hosts.
Post by Pina, Bruce
We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver
environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test
system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are
running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge
R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We
currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace
them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing
on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting
RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are
in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other
people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using
the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can
someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this
minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of
Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.
Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
704-632-7280
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l***@ulrar.net
2018-05-25 20:13:00 UTC
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Yeah, I'd advise just installing regular debian and adding the
proxmox repo on top : works like a charm. The debian installer is way
easier for basically anything but the most simple setups, I find.
Post by Alex Chekholko
I don't know the answer off the top of my head but it would help you to
expand your search to just any Debian installation on that hardware, as
"proxmox" is just a specific variant of Debian. You can also try a Debian
installation yourself on those hosts.
Post by Pina, Bruce
We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver
environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test
system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are
running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge
R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We
currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace
them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing
on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting
RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are
in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other
people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using
the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can
someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this
minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of
Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.
Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
704-632-7280
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Musee Ullah
2018-05-25 20:23:54 UTC
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If you use Ansible in house, you might also want to check out this role to save some management
headache:

https://galaxy.ansible.com/lae/proxmox/

(provided you either don't have that driver (?) issue on bare debian 9 or figure it out)
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Post by l***@ulrar.net
Yeah, I'd advise just installing regular debian and adding the
proxmox repo on top : works like a charm. The debian installer is way
easier for basically anything but the most simple setups, I find.
Post by Alex Chekholko
I don't know the answer off the top of my head but it would help you to
expand your search to just any Debian installation on that hardware, as
"proxmox" is just a specific variant of Debian. You can also try a Debian
installation yourself on those hosts.
Post by Pina, Bruce
We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver
environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test
system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are
running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge
R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We
currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace
them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing
on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting
RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are
in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other
people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using
the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can
someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this
minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of
Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.
Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
704-632-7280
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l***@ulrar.net
2018-05-25 20:28:47 UTC
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Ah, neat. I have no idea how to use this, but I'll forward this to our
ansible guys, we do spend a lot of time making clusters by hand so that
might help, thanks !
Post by Musee Ullah
If you use Ansible in house, you might also want to check out this role to save some management
https://galaxy.ansible.com/lae/proxmox/
(provided you either don't have that driver (?) issue on bare debian 9 or figure it out)
--
Post by l***@ulrar.net
Yeah, I'd advise just installing regular debian and adding the
proxmox repo on top : works like a charm. The debian installer is way
easier for basically anything but the most simple setups, I find.
Post by Alex Chekholko
I don't know the answer off the top of my head but it would help you to
expand your search to just any Debian installation on that hardware, as
"proxmox" is just a specific variant of Debian. You can also try a Debian
installation yourself on those hosts.
Post by Pina, Bruce
We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver
environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test
system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are
running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge
R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We
currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace
them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing
on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting
RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are
in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other
people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using
the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can
someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this
minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of
Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.
Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
704-632-7280
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Phil Schwarz
2018-06-01 13:06:14 UTC
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Hi,
is the use of H700 as Raid controller mandatory ???

Using the H700 as HBA only and configure every disk as JBOD . You could
save you Energy, Stress,... :

- Using ZFS Raidz (=Raid1) for Proxmox system disks may be worth it.
Simple, integrated into Proxmox base system, ..
A real pleasure, especially when a disk failure occurs and you have to
rescue the array. You'll love ZFS (if you don't love it currently)

- Use every other disk as OSD object storage for Ceph backend storage.


A dozen nodes ceph cluster build over R715 could achieve pretty good
perfs if network is decent.

Best regards
Post by l***@ulrar.net
Ah, neat. I have no idea how to use this, but I'll forward this to our
ansible guys, we do spend a lot of time making clusters by hand so that
might help, thanks !
Post by Musee Ullah
If you use Ansible in house, you might also want to check out this role to save some management
https://galaxy.ansible.com/lae/proxmox/
(provided you either don't have that driver (?) issue on bare debian 9 or figure it out)
--
Post by l***@ulrar.net
Yeah, I'd advise just installing regular debian and adding the
proxmox repo on top : works like a charm. The debian installer is way
easier for basically anything but the most simple setups, I find.
Post by Alex Chekholko
I don't know the answer off the top of my head but it would help you to
expand your search to just any Debian installation on that hardware, as
"proxmox" is just a specific variant of Debian. You can also try a Debian
installation yourself on those hosts.
Post by Pina, Bruce
We are evaluating Proxmox as a replacement for our Citrix Xenserver
environment. So far we've been pleased with what we have seen on the test
system we built out using 2 Dell Poweredge R715 servers. The problem we are
running into is when attempting to install proxmox on one of the Poweredge
R815 servers that make up the bulk of our Xenserver infrastructure. We
currently have a dozen of these servers in house, and having to replace
them would be beyond what our budget can manage. The issue with installing
on the R815 has to do with the proxmox installation process not detecting
RAID arrays configured on the Perc H700 embedded RAID controllers that are
in the machines. I have seen from some research online that there are other
people who have apparently successfully installed proxmox on the R815 using
the H700, but I have not been able to learn how they pulled it off. Can
someone please provide some guidance in this matter as we feel that this
minor stumbling block is keeping us from a successful displacement of
Xenserver by Proxmox. Thank you.
Bruce Pina
Corporate IT Manager
Bahakel Communications Ltd.
704-632-7280
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